A response to: Falling Away From the Faith by giannina

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These statements are in conflict :

  • Can you lose your salvation? The question is phrased incorrectly. The question should be “can you fall away from the faith?” The biblical answer is yes, you can fall away from the faith.

  • Can we know we are going to heaven? The biblical answer to that questions is yes we can know we are going to heaven. The cross is an accomplished fact. Jesus died for our sins. It is finished.

If you can lose your salvation then Jesus didn’t finish anything.  We know from Hebrews 10 that the death of Christ ALWAYS results in the perfection of them for whom it was offered so if you lose your faith Jesus didn’t finish anything for you.

If you miss the point of justification you’ll miss the point of the “good news.”

“Far from being a merely speculative point, it spreads its influence through the whole body of divinity, runs through all Christian experience, and operates in every part of practical godliness. Such is its grand importance, that a mistake about it has a malignant efficacy, and is attended with a long train of dangerous consequences.” Abraham Booth, The Reign of Grace

A sinner will continue to fall into sin due to the old nature remaining (Rom. 7). To claim that we can fall back into sin and lose faith confuses justification with regeneration and sanctification, one of the key reasons for the Reformation. Jesus Christ is the perfect propitiation for our (believers) sins, that means the enmity between God and man has been removed and besides, propitiated sins cannot be punished.

The Bible teaches that a sinner is declared justified by God in a legal sense, “Who will bring a charge against God’s elect?” (Gen. 44:16, Job 9:20, 32:2, Ps. 51:4, Rom. 8:33-34). Jesus Christ represents His people while God the Father pronounces a judgement on us in Christ. Our justifying is not a change being made in us but a declaration of our innocence based on the work of Christ on the cross. This is an objective change in our legal status before God as it relates to our transgression of the Law of God. A criminal can be forgiven or pardoned but only a righteous person can be justified, which is the whole point of Christ’s death in place of sinners, to impute (not infuse or impart) righteousness (Rom. 3:24, 8:30) to His people.

“Eternal security” or “once saved always saved” teachers will often ask the question “what particular sin can cause someone to “lose their salvation.” The biblical response to that question is that when faith fails and love grows cold a person will fall into their old sinful lifestyle. It’s not a matter of a believer stumbling, falling into sin, and then repenting. It’s a matter of falling away from the faith entirely and falling back into their old sinful lifestyle. There is no security in sin. Repentance is not a one time act.

In the parable of the sower, Jesus taught that there would be those who would believe only for awhile and endure only for a time. He said some would fall away.

There are different “kinds” of faith as Stephen Charnock points out, “Those who lay claim to a relation to God without imitation of him are not children but bastards. They may be of his family by instruction but not by descent. There is no implantation in Christ without an imitation both of the Creator and Redeemer.”

Not all faith is saving faith (Jam. 2:14) and the Gospel can produce a shallow, mental ascent to the good news presented. A profession does not necessarily mean one is saved for not everyone who “says Lord, Lord” is saved. (Matt. 7) Only those who are “accepted in the beloved” are saved, not all those who walk an aisle during an altar call can make that claim.

To say that Christ’s death doesn’t actually accomplish salvation destroys the biblical doctrine of the atonement and the unity of the Trinity for Christ’s death becomes a salvation AmWay program and God the Father refuses to hear the prayers of God the Son. (John 17)

Peace,

jm

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A response to a post made by giannina.

giannina post is found here.

T.U.L.I.P. is an acronym used by Calvinists to describe the main five points of Calvinism.

T stands for TOTAL DEPRAVITY – This “Calvin” doctrine propagates the error that that man is so depraved and corrupt that he is not capable of making a choice to follow the Lord. It is taught that God is the one who predestines some to believe in Him and be born again, and predestines others not to believe in Him. The ones who are not predestined to believe will perish in hell. This doctrine denies free will. They say it doesn’t, but it does.

When you talk to a Reformed or Calvinistic Christian you’ll find some will deny or affirm the idea of freewill based on how you are using the term OR how they believe you are using the term but I’ll come back to that latter. In Genesis we read the narrative account of the fall of Adam. As we read through the Holy record, we find sinful man, not seeking God in their fallen state, but hiding from God. How true a statement “there is none that seeketh after God!” The very first thing that sinful man did was hide from God and since that time God has been the seeker of man, “Adam, where art thou?”

A depiction of man in his natural, unregenerated state is given in Romans 3:9-20 where we read:

(9)What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before
proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
(10) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
(11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh
after God.
(12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become
unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
(13) Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have
used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
(14) Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
(15) Their feet are swift to shed blood:
(16) Destruction and misery are in their ways:
(17) And the way of peace have they not known:
(18) There is no fear of God before their eyes.
(19) Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to
them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world
may become guilty before God.
(20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be
justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

There are 10 quick facts to highlight about man from Romans 3:

v.9 all are equal in sin
v.10 no one is righteous
v.11 no one understands or seeks God
v.12 all have abandon God’s way
v.13 moral stench
v.14 internal decay
v.15 impulsive
v.16 full of violence [Gen. 6:11]
v.17 violence is our nature, not peace
v.18 the reason for all of the above problems, “there is no fear of God before their eyes”

In verses 9-12 we find Paul’s description of the universal unrighteousness of mankind clearly explained; “they are all under sin,” “there is none righteous,” “there is none that seeketh,” and “they are all gone out the way.” One of the worst exegetical errors I’ve ever read, which finds its roots in self-righteousness, is to deny the plain meaning of Romans 3 by interjecting a division into the chapter between the Jew and Gentile. Paul is attempting to explain that we are all in the same boat, both Jew and Gentile, we are all sinners in the sight of God. To object we must conclude the Jews and the Jews only fit this description but I digress. J. C. Philpot wrote, “As no heart can sufficiently conceive, so no tongue can adequately express, the state of wretchedness and ruin into which sin has cast guilty, miserable man. In separating him from God, it severed him from the only source of all happiness and holiness. It has ruined him body and soul: the one it has filled with sickness and disease; in the other it has defaced and destroyed the image of God in which it was created. It has made him love sin and hate God.”

To argue against the total inability of man, the fallen nature of man, is to argue against Paul’s description of man in Romans 3. The argument is reduced to, “but, but, but…I’m not that bad!” So I must direct you to Romans 3.

Here are a few others:

Spiritual Deadness:  Genesis 2:16-17; Psalm 51:5; Psalm 58:3; John 3:5-7; Romans 5:12; Ephesians 2:1-3; Colossians 2:13.

Darkened Minds and Corrupt Hearts:  Genesis 6:5; Genesis 8:21; Ecclesiastes 9:3; Jeremiah 17:9; Mark 7:21-23; John 3:19; Romans 8:7-8; 1 Corinthians 2:14; Ephesians 4:17-19; Ephesians 5:8; Titus 1:15.

Bondage to Sin and Satan: John 8:34; John 8:44; Romans 6:20; Ephesians 2:1-2; 2 Timothy 2:25-26; Titus 3:3; 1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:19.

Universal Bondage:  1 Kings 8:46; 2 Chronicles 6:36; Job 15:14-16; Psalm 130:3; Psalm 143:2; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; Ecclesiastes 7:29; Isaiah 53:6; Isaiah 64:6; Romans 3:9-12; James 3:2; James 3:8; 1 John 1:8; 1 John 1:10.

Inability to Change:  Job 14:4; Jeremiah 23:13; Matthew 7:16-18; Matthew 12:33; John 6:44; John 6:65; Romans 11:35-36; 1 Corinthians 2:14; 1 Corinthians 4:7; 2 Corinthians 3:5.

Some of the examples given by giannina on PEACEMAKERS are listed below.

Matthew 11:20 “Then began he (Jesus) to UPBRAID the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:”

(UPBRAID – Find fault with, or reproach severely. dictionary.com)

There is nothing about Matthew 11, or any passage in scripture for that matter, that is inconsistent with Reformed or Calvinistic theology. As demonstrated above from Romans 3 all mankind is dead in sin. We are sinners by nature and by choice. We freely choose according to our fallen nature and Matthew 11:20 illustrates this idea perfectly AND consistently with what Reformed Christians believe.

Luke 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but YOU WERE NOT WILLING!” (NKJV)

The same story is told in Matthew 23 with more detail and more detail can shed light on the context.

Who is ‘Jerusalem’ in the context of this passage? Some folks believe Jerusalem to be in reference to individual Jews, but this can’t be. Starting at the beginning of Matthew 23 we find our Lord speaking of the leaders of Jerusalem, the Scribes and Pharisee, those who killed the prophets:

v. 2 “…Pharisees sit in Moses sit…”
v. 6 “…chief seats in the synagogues…”
v. 7 “…Rabbi, Rabbi…”
v. 13 “But woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees…”
v. 14 “Woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees…”
v. 15 “Woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees…”
v. 16 “Woe unto you, ye blind guides…”
etc, etc. I think you get the picture.

Another look at both passages.

Matt. 23:37, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”

Luk 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

Jesus isn’t calling the leaders to gather He is calling the ‘children’ or believers, ‘Jerusalem’ or the leaders and rulers of Jerusalem are not being called to gather at all. The leaders wouldn’t allow the faithful of God to come together, God wasn’t seeking to bring together those who ‘killest the prophets’ but the faithful. The unwillingness comes from not allowing the faithful to come together and not rejecting some offer of salvation.

Those Christ would gather are not represented as being unwilling but not allowed by the ruling class. James White in “Potter’s Freedom” does a good job with this passage as it’s one of the big three Arminian passages.

“O, Arminian, Arminian, thou that distortest the prophets and misinterpretest them that are sent unto thee; how often have I told your children the plain truth . . . and ye would not let them understand!” (quoting Clarke)

Romans 1:18-20 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, FOR GOD HAS SHOWN IT TO THEM. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE,” (NKJV)

Absolutely, amen.

Freewill normally refers to libertarian freewill and that man is totally free to act unhindered by their (fallen) nature and choose any of the moral options at any given time. Free agency means that fallen man acts freely, without compulsion from outside sources, according to their fallen nature. Sinners sin because they are sinners by nature and choice because they choose according to the proclivities of their hearts. This means they are still responsible for their sin since they willing decided to sin. Mankind is without excuse.

U stands for UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION – This “Calvin” doctrine propagates the error that some individuals are elected/chosen to salvation, and some are not. It is taught that God’s choices are unconditional.

Instead of reading what giannina posts on the subject I’d suggest you read the statements of this biblical doctrine in the Reformed confessions. Confessions and creeds are not binding but can be used to make a clear statement of the doctrine.

About this doctrine Charles Spurgeon wrote, “I believe in the doctrine of election, because I am quite certain that, If God had not chosen me, I should never had chosen him; and I am sure he chose me before I was born, or else he would never had chosen me afterwards; and He must have elected me for some reason unknown to me, for I never could have found any reason in myself why he should have looked upon me with special love”

SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that Christ is the chosen, Christ is the elect. When we believe the gospel we are then called chosen and elect because we are “in Christ.” It’s not about us, it’s about Christ.

Matthew 12:18 “Behold my servant, whom I have CHOSEN; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.”

Luke 23:35 “And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the CHOSEN of God.”

Isaiah 42:1 “Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine ELECT, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.”

giannina goes onto to list Matthew 12:18, Luke 23:35 and Isaiah 42:1. There are many verses that do in fact state that believers are also chosen and elect by God.

Eph. 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. (Thayer Definitions: foreknowledge, forethought, pre-arrangement.)

Other verses to consider:

A Chosen People: Deuteronomy 10:14-15; Psalm 33:12; Psalm 65:4; Psalm 106:5; Haggai 2:23; Matthew 11:27; Matthew 22:14; Matthew 22:22; Matthew 22:24; Matthew 24:31; Luke 18:7; Romans 8:28-30; Romans 8:33; Romans 11:28; Colossians 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Titus 1:1; 1 Peter 1:1-2; 1 Peter 2:8-9; Revelation 17:14.

Election Not Based on Foreseen Responses: Mark 13:20; John 15:16; Acts 13:48; Acts 18:27; Romans 9:11-13; Romans 9:16; Romans 10:20; 1 Corinthians 1:27-29; Philippians 1:29; Philippians 2:12-13; Ephesians 1:4; Ephesians 2:10; 1 Thessalonians 1:4-5; 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14; 2 Timothy 1:9; James 2:5; Revelation 13:8; Revelation 17:8.

Election Precedes Salvation: Acts 13:48; Romans 11:7; Ephesians 1:4; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14; 2 Timothy 2:10.

Election Based on Sovereign Mercy:Exodus 33:19; Deuteronomy 7:6-7; Matthew 20:15; Romans 9:10-24; Romans 11:4-6; Romans 11:33-36; Ephesians 1:5.

L stands for LIMITED ATONEMENT – This “Calvin” doctrine propagates the error that Christ’s atoning work on the cross was only for certain individuals.

We know that Christ died for His sheep (John 10:15), the children of God (John 11:52), the children God gave Him (John 17:11; Hebrews 2:13), His elect (Romans 8:33), the people He foreknew (Romans 11:2), His Church (Acts 20:28) and He died for those whose sins He took (Hebrew 9:28). These are clear limits found in scripture that deal directly with the atoning work of Christ…here we go again…

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Quoting John 3:16 only begs the question…who are the “whosoevers?” Who are they that believe in Jesus Christ? Answer that question and you will have a context to the chapter.

A. W. Pink notes, “The principal subject of John 3:16 is Christ as the Gift of God. The first clause tells us what moved God to “give” his only begotten Son, and that was his great “love”; the second clause informs us for whom God “gave” his Son, and that is for, “whosoever (or, better, `every one’) believeth”; while the last clause makes known why God “gave” his Son (his purpose), and that is, that everyone that believeth “should not perish but have everlasting life.” That “the world” in John 3:16 refers to the world of believers (God’s elect), in contradistinction from “the world of the ungodly” (2Pe 2:5), is established, unequivocally established, by a comparison of the other passages which speak of God’s “love.” “God commendeth his love toward us” — the saints, Rom. 5:8. “Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth” — every son, Heb 12:6. “We love him, because he first loved us” — believers, 1 John 4:19. The wicked God “pities” (see Mt 18:33). Unto the unthankful and evil God is “kind” (see Luke 6:35). The vessels of wrath he endures “with much longsuffering” (see Rom. 9:22). But “his own” God “loves”!!”

The atonement is limited not only by Calvinists but also by non-Calvinists. The former limits the extent and the latter limits the power. Author Loraine Boettner uses the analogy of bridges; the one is a narrow bridge that goes all the way to the other side, while the other is a wide bridge that only extends half way. Over the years the blessings of grace have strengthened my witness with the knowledge that God’s will is always done, the bridge will in fact reach all the way across the chasm that sin has created. With boldness we may proclaim the Gospel to all knowing that God’s will be done.

Luke 2:10 “And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to ALL people.”

Luke 2:31 “Which thou hast prepared before the face of ALL people;”

This is called hyperbole; it’s used throughout scripture and even at the beginning of this chapter. In verse 1 Luke writes about a decree from Caesar Augustus to tax the “world.” Luke is clearly using hyperbole for the entire “world” was not taxed. The Chinese, Japanese, North American Natives, etc., were not taxed. It’s called hyperbole.

2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

Peter is obviously writing to believers for “the Lord” did not make promises to unbelievers, the “us-ward” is a reference to US! Christians. Believers. God is not willing that any of us will parish before His return. The context is seen by removing the chapter and verse system and backing up into chapter 2.

Revelation 22:17 “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely.”

Again, it only begs the question.

I stands for IRRESISTIBLE GRACE – This “Calvin” doctrine propagates the error that when God calls a person to salvation, that person cannot resist God’s call.

The above is not an accurate description of irresistible grace, please see links to Reformed Confessions above…

Acts 7:51 “Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST THE HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.”

“For who hath resisted his will?” (Rom. 9:19)

You need to show how Acts 7:51 proves your point.

Gill writes, “the resistance made by these persons was not to the Spirit of God in them, of which they were destitute, but to the Spirit of God in his ministers, in his apostles, and particularly in Stephen; nor to any internal operation of his grace, but to the external ministry of the word, and to all that objective light, knowledge, evidence, and conviction that it gave of Jesus’s being the Messiah…”

This makes sense in light of Romans 9 since no one is able to resist God’s will.

Verses to consider on this subject.

The Spirit Saves : Romans 8:14; 1 Corinthians 2:10-13; 1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 Corinthians 12:3; 2 Corinthians 3:6; 2 Corinthians 3:17-18; 1 Peter 1:1-2.

The Spirit Gives New Birth: Deuteronomy 30:6; Ezekiel 11:19; Ezekiel 36:26-27; John 1:12-13; John 3:3-8; John 5:21; 2 Corinthians 5:17-18; Galatians 6:15; Ephesians 2:5; Ephesians 2:10; Colossians 2:13; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:3; 1 Peter 1:23; 1 John 5:4.

The Spirit Reveals the Secrets of God: Matthew 11:25-27; Matthew 13:10-11; Matthew 13:16; Matthew 16:15-17; Luke 8:10; Luke 10:21; John 6:37; John 6:44-45; John 6:64-65; John 10:3-6; John 10:16; John 10:26-29; 1 Corinthians 2:14; Ephesians 1:17-18.

The Spirit Gives Faith and Repentance: Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18; Acts 13:48; Acts 16:14; Acts 18:27; Ephesians 2:8-9; Philippians 1:29; 2 Timothy 2:25-26.

The Spirit Effectually Calls: Romans 1:6-7; Romans 8:30; Romans 9:23-24; 1 Corinthians 1:1-2; 1 Corinthians 1:9; 1 Corinthians 1:23-31; Galatians 1:15-16; Ephesians 4:4; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 9:15; Jude 1:1; 1 Peter 1:15; 1 Peter 2:9; 1 Peter 5:10; 2 Peter 1:3; Revelation 17:14.

  • P stands for PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS (also known as “Once Saved Always Saved”) – This “Calvin” doctrine propagates the error that a person can never fall away from the faith.

From the London Baptist Confession of Faith written in 1689 :

This perseverance of the saints depends not upon their own free will, but upon the immutability of the decree of election, flowing from the free and unchangeable love of God the Father, upon the efficacy of the merit and intercession of Jesus Christ and union with him, the oath of God, the abiding of his Spirit, and the seed of God within them, and the nature of the covenant of grace; from all which ariseth also the certainty and infallibility thereof. ( Romans 8:30 Romans 9:11, 16; Romans 5:9, 10; John 14:19; Hebrews 6:17, 18; 1 John 3:9; Jeremiah 32:40 )

Our faith is the evidence of our salvation for we have been called by name (Isa. 43:1-3) and God’s steadfast love will not depart from us (Isa. 54:10). Our salvation is found not in ourselves but in the decree of our covenant keeping God, a covenant Christ enacted at the Lord’s Supper when He said, For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:28

This covenant is often called the covenant of redemption or the eternal covenant (Zech. 6:13, Titus 1:2; Hebrews 13:20). In this covenant made before time God the Father gives God the Son for “many,” God the Son offers Himself in place of sinners, and God the Holy Spirit administers this covenant in time and is confirmed by God the Son at the Last Supper with His blood. No one can receive God the Holy Spirit unless they know Him (John 14:17), those who have not the Spirit of God cannot be saved (Rom. 8:9), if you deny God the Son you do not have God as your Father (1 John 2:23) and without a knowledge of our Triune God you are “without God.” (Eph. 2:12)

This Covenant is “…an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.” (Jer. 32:40) Jesus Christ is our high priest (Heb. 3:1), our great high priest (Heb. 4:14) who prays for us (John 17, 17:9; Rom. 8:43) and lives to do so.

“Whom he called, them he also justified…them he also glorified.” (Rom. 8:30)

This passage reveals a link between our calling, our justification and our glorification. There is a link between these ideas but also a distinction. The doctrines cannot be separated but they are not to be confused. I am declared righteous before God because of what Christ has done for me and what He has done is immediate, through the instrumentality of faith, while our sanctification is a life long process of degrees, based on God the Holy Spirit working in me. The Old Testament was “do and live,” the New Testament is “live and do.” We can see from scripture that justification through faith is not a translation into perfection but a change from guilty to “no condemnation” for we are “reconciled by His death” and “justified by His blood.”

John 8:31 “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;”

Amen. Not all faith is saving faith (Jam. 2:14) and the Gospel can produce a shallow, mental ascent to the good news presented. A profession does not necessarily mean one is saved for not everyone who “says Lord, Lord” is saved. (Matt. 7) Only those who are “accepted in the beloved” are saved, not all those who walk an aisle during an altar call can make that claim. The following quote was taken from page 3 of the Basics of Biblical Greek by William D. Mounce (2nd edition), “When Paul writes to the Ephesians that it is ‘by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves; it is a gift from God (Eph 2:8), what does ‘it’ refer to?” The answer to this question if found in the footnote which reads, “The whole process of salvation, which includes our faith.” (emphasis added) Our faith is a gift from God.

1 Timothy 1:19 “Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away CONCERNING FAITH HAVE MADE SHIPWRECK:”

The analogy of a shipwrecked faith in 1 Timothy 1 doesn’t necessarily lead to the conclusion that a believer can fall from grace forever. Keeping in mind the analogy, Paul was shipwrecked three times and saved all three times.

2 Timothy 4:7 “I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have KEPT THE FAITH:”

Great! You didn’t supply a context so all I can post is Amen.

2 Peter 2:20-22 “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness, than, after they have KNOWN it, to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is TURNED to his own vomit again; and the sow that WAS WASHED to her wallowing in the mire.”

In 2 Peter 2 we find Peter writing to a group of Jewish believers (1 Pet. 1:1, Gal. 2:7) who would have understood the Greek word “Lord” as a reference to God who brought them out of Egypt. We know these people Peter is referencing were never believers because he clearly states, “the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” There was no change in the nature of the individual. They never stopped being dogs and pigs.

More scriptures:

Isaiah 43:1-3 whom the Lord redeems he also keeps
Isaiah 54:10 the kindness of the Lord shall not depart from his covenant people
Jeremiah 32:40 God will not depart from his people and will not permit them to depart either
Matthew 18:14 Jesus seeks and restores the wandering sheep and it is not the
will of God that one should perish
John 3:16 believers will not perish
John 3:36 believers have life – unbelievers have wrath
John 5:24 He who hears and believes shall not come into condemnation
John 6:35-40 no wise is the believer cast out
John 6:47 the believer has everlasting life
John 10:27-30 they (the sheep) shall never perish
John 17:11 Jesus’ prayer for the Father to keep believers
John 17:12 none lost but the one Scripture said would be lost
John 17:15 Proper understand of “keep” is “keep from evil.”
Romans 5:8-10 if justified, how much more shall we be saved.
Romans 8:1 There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus

Romans 8:29-30 whom he foreknew … he also glorified.
Romans 8:35-39 nothing can separate us from the love of God
1 Corinthians 1:7-9 Christ shall confirm you unto the end
1 Corinthians 10:13 God will not allow us to be tempted beyond our ability to withstand
2 Corinthians 4:14-17 we do not henceforth live to ourselves but to Christ
Ephesians 1:5 predestined unto adoption, not just justification
Ephesians 1:13 sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise
Ephesians 1:14 earnest of our inheritance as purchased possession
Ephesians 4:30 we are sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption
Colossians 3:34 when Christ appears, we shall also appear
1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 God will faithfully preserve us blameless unto the coming of Christ
2 Timothy 4:18 God will preserve us to his heavenly kingdom -from every evil work
Hebrews 9:12 Christ has obtained an eternal redemption for us
Hebrews 9:15 those who are called will receive the promise of the inheritance
Hebrews 10:14 by his offering he has perfected the sanctified forever
Hebrews 12:28 we receive a kingdom which cannot be moved[present active participle]
1 Peter 1:3-5 our inheritance is reserved for us, for we are kept by the power of God unto salvation
1 John 2:19 If they had been of us, they would not have departed from us
1 John 2:25 the promise of God is eternal life
1 John 5:4 whatever is born of God overcomes the world
1 John 5:11-13 those who have the Son may be certain of eternal life
Jude 1 those that are sanctified are also preserved
Jude 24,25 God is able to keep us from falling
2 Timothy 1:12 God keeps what is committed to him against that day
2 Timothy 2:21 we are prepared for good works
2 Timothy 4:7 Paul’s history – he kept the faith.
Titus 3:8 those who believe should be careful to maintain good works
Philemon 21 Paul’s confidence in Philemon’s obedience
Hebrews 2:10 Christ bring many sons to Glory (not merely justification).
Hebrews 2:14-15 the devil destroyed as the one with power of death and thus
God’s children delivered
Hebrews 3:6 we are demonstrated to be of the household of God only as we hold unto the end
Hebrews 3:14 See Hebrews 3:6
Hebrews 6:9-12 perseverance accompanies salvation
Hebrews 6:17-20 God’s counsel, by which we are chosen is immutable (see Ephesians 1:11)
Hebrews 7:25 Jesus saves us to the uttermost
Hebrews 10:22-23 we have assurance that we will hold fast to our profession because God is faithful
Hebrews 10:39 we are not of those who draw back. i.e. those who draw back are a different set
1 Peter 2:12 encouragement to good works that will glorify God
1 Peter 2:15 Such good works are God’s will (see verse 12)
1 Samuel 12:22 God will not forsake his people

That’s it…for now…

jm